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Critical Consensus: Saints Row 4

Critical Consensus: Saints Row 4

Wed 14 Aug 2013 2:40pm GMT / 10:40am EDT / 7:40am PDT
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Gangs are out, superheroes are in - how does Volition's open-world game fare after a publicly rocky development period?

No video game has a smooth path to release, but the latest Saints Row title has lived its rocky development very much in the public eye. Following the surprise success of Saints Row The Third, this expansion pack was promoted to full sequel, and kept its head while developer Volition's parent company THQ collapsed. Bought out by Deep Silver and Koch - a company with marketing methods as crass as the games' content - Saints Row 4 has somehow naturally evolved from gangsters fighting for respect to the president of the United States tackling an alien invasion with a dubstep gun.

For Eurogamer's Chris Shilling, this fourth outing is another reinvention of the series. "What began as little more than a poor man's GTA has evolved into a kind of anything-goes sandbox action game, but it's hard to pick out a defining characteristic beyond the fact that it lets you do stupid stuff," he says in the site's 8/10 review.

"Volition can't always decide whether it's parodying an idea or just embracing it, but there's a clear and wide-eyed affection for the games it either apes or mocks"

Chris Schilling, Eurogamer

The game wears its pop culture and video game influences on its sleeve, with Shilling highlighting ideas grabbed straight from Crackdown, InFamous, Prototype, Mass Effect and Metal Gear. "Saints Row has always been a magpie, pilfering an assortment of ideas from other games and re-appropriating them for its own demented ends," he writes. "Volition can't always decide whether it's parodying an idea or just embracing it, but there's a clear and wide-eyed affection for the games it either apes or mocks"

With a review that's happy to gloss over technical issues - "the frame-rate doesn't always hold up, but if that's the price to pay for such giddy mayhem, then it's a bill most will be happy to foot" - Shilling concludes his review by embracing the stupidity and celebrating Volition's confidence in crazy.

"Saints Row 4 may lack refinement - nothing thwarts a superhero quite so frequently as an overhanging roof or your homies standing in a doorway - but it compensates with sheer exuberance. It's a heartfelt love letter to the superhero genre and to a medium that makes such madness possible. There's a fine art to being this gloriously dumb, it seems, which pretty much makes Saints Row 4 the Sistine Chapel ceiling of stupidity."

John Walker of Rock, Paper, Shotgun is happy to see some critique of video game trends, suggesting that an understated opening to Saints Row 4 is a "sarcastic rendition of the dreary state of action games." He's just has content to embrace the madness, in particular praising the game as it "out-does City Of Heroes for sheer mad pleasure of moving around its environs."

But Walker is more critical of the game's origins, suggesting its easy to see where corners and costs have been cut in development.

"It's very apparent that this started as an expansion for Saints Row 3. Volition have essentially created a total-conversion mod for their last game, and while I argue it takes nothing away from the ludicrously brilliant time I've had with it - and in fact is the best Saints Row game yet - the budget saving that's gone on is unavoidably obvious."

"Volition have essentially created a total-conversion mod for their last game, and while I argue it takes nothing away from the ludicrously brilliant time I've had with it - the budget saving that's gone on is unavoidably obvious"

John Walker, RPS

But like Eurogamer's review, any problems are erased by the quality of the end product. Walker in particular picks out the quality of the comedy writing and script.

"Like Saints Row: The Third, the writing is absolutely stunning, with stellar voice acting to match. There's barely a wasted line, conversations packed with humour, pathos, and surprising earnestness. The timing is always exquisite, the animations matching the delivery, such that an eye-roll can deliver a punchline. These are things that are almost unheard of in gaming! That you find them at their best in a game of such lunatic frivolity is doubly fantastic."

For IGN's Dan Stapleton Saints Row 4 is too much, offering power to the player that renders so much of the content irrelevent.

"Why do I need gun upgrades when I can shoot fireballs from my hands? Why should I bother summoning homies to help me in combat when I can throw tanks with my mind? What good are customizable cars with afterburners when they only slow me down?" he asks.

In a review littered with whinging, Stapleton complains about mission structure, the chore of collecting, recycled side quests, overpowered characters and how the game feels "strangely low budget" - but at the bottom of the page is still content to award the game a 7.3 score.

While IGN is down on the game, the Official PlayStation Magazine UK tries to kick it around the floor with a 6/10 and some gags crowbarred in by writer David Meikleham.

"Until you finish the main story, the entire metropolis is bathed in darkness, with an extra layer of blurry colour filters and horribly plain textures slathered on for eye-offending good measure. Add to this every main character looks like a Smackdown CAW from six years ago and there's no question Saints Row 4 is uglier than Quasimodo in a mankini," he writes.

"Occasionally excellent, often mired in mediocrity, Saints Row 4 is inferior to Red Dead Redemption and even five-year-old GTA IV in almost every way"

David Meikleham, OPM

"Worse, the framerate frequently tanks. It may have been a glitch with our review code (or a fault that can be fixed with a day one patch), but the game dropped to about 10-15fps for over ten minutes on three separate occasions over the course of the story."

Meikleham is bored of the main missions, enjoying the side quests more, but even those can't save a game that for him isn't able to stand shoulder to shoulder to other titles in the genre.

"Occasionally excellent, often mired in mediocrity, Saints Row 4 is inferior to Red Dead Redemption and even five-year-old GTA IV in almost every way. And while you're always likely to miss when comin' at the kings, Volition's effort still falls short of the more cohesive Sleeping Dogs, the expansive frolicking on Just Cause 2's Panau and the polished pantomime of Infamous 2."

Just over an hour since the review embargo lifted IGN and OPM seem to be the two sites most critical of the game, with big scores from the likes of Destructoid, Polygon and Joystiq likely to cary more weight amongst players, the marketing team at Deep Silver and the developers of Volition who have seemingly enjoyed themselves putting together a game under such trying circumstances.

For the majority of reviewers then, Saints Row is a game that finally lets players push the boundaries of the ridiculous potential of video games. As RPS' Walker concludes: "Games have the ability to let us live out such mad, explosive, eccentric nonsense, and yet they almost never do. Saints Row IV does, and that makes it incredibly special. That it does it with such panache, such ease, and such ceaselessly entertaining humour, makes it simply one of the most fun games I've ever played."

6 Comments

Rick Lopez
Illustrator, Graphic Designer

1,269 942 0.7
destructoid gave it a 9.5

IGN gave it a 7.3

In my personal opinion, lots a games today are great, but are only good for one play through, you put it down and its done. I still play Saints Row 3 and if Saints Row 4 is along those lines than I will give it a go. I have my copy on pre-order.

But i will tell you what sets Saints Row apart from other games, especially games that strive high production AAA, cinematic, realistic expiriences. In that process alot of times they lose 1 very important thing as a game...

They stop being fun to play...

What I like about Saints Row is that its just fun to play, even if your not following the story or main quests, its just fun to drive around, blow shit up and with so much to do, it barely gets tiresome.

Its not a Grand Theft Auto 5, or as seriouse as tomb raider or as cinematic as Uncharted or as epic a mass effect, but its fun to play, and for that alone I will give it a shot. Alot of games now a days take themselves so seriouse when they dont have to all the time. All these dark realistic tones are cool, but not all the time.

Posted:A year ago

#1

Pete Thompson
Owner / Admin

174 99 0.6
I don't take notice of what the big commercial site reviews have to say.. If I've not got a review copy of the game myself to review then I always pick an independent site..

I'm hoping from what I've seen in the mass of trailers released that SR4 is going to be at least as good as SR The Third, if it is then it should be a fun game to play, and as Rick says it'll be a game you can pick up and play months after release and still have fun..

I still play GTAIV, Red Dead Redemption and SR3 with friends because they have fun at their core..

Posted:A year ago

#2

Simon Weisgerber
Game Localization Consultant

21 8 0.4
Rick, couldn't have said it any better. SR simply is fun to play - and the sometimes very chaotic situations that emerge just add to that. Very much looking forward to part 4.

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Simon Weisgerber on 15th August 2013 8:49am

Posted:A year ago

#3

Alfonso Sexto
Lead Tester

807 637 0.8
"Saints Row 4 is inferior to Red Dead Redemption and even five-year-old GTA IV in almost every way"

Sorry, but when a reviewer says something like that, the only thing I can say is that he didn't understood the very nature of the game itself and what it tries to be. which is basically the opposite to those games he mentions.

One thing is having a personal opinion, another one is not understanding what you are working with.

Posted:A year ago

#4

Liam
Director of Presentation

2 0 0.0
Saints Row 3 was super fun and really refreshing, can't wait to play SR4!

Posted:A year ago

#5

Tobias Burandt

13 1 0.1
I got SR4 preordered already. The whole Saints Row Series was to me always superior to the try-hard-gangster GTA. Both have their pros and cons but when it comes to personal opinoin it's Saints Row for me all the way.

I really recommend to just pick up the game and give it a try if you not already have. Today's game reviews, from most major sites at least, are so full of IGNorance towards points that make a game really fun.

Posted:A year ago

#6

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