PS4 $399, no used game restrictions

Sony counters Xbox One's price, online requirements in E3 media briefing

With Nintendo taking a pass on the normal E3 media briefing frenzy this year, Sony found itself batting cleanup Monday night. Microsoft started the day announcing a host of Xbox One exclusives, as well as a $499 price and November release window for its next-gen system. Now it's Sony's turn to fire back.

Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO Jack Tretton kicked things off, welcoming the audience to E3 and mentioning that some of the people in attendance began lining up Friday at noon so they could be in the crowd.

Since February's PS4 announcement, Tretton said the momentum and interest in the system has grown tremendously. But before we get to that, Tretton brings up the Vita and PS3, and Sony's goal to change the PlayStation ecosystem in a more vibrant platform that allows people to play and share on their terms.

Vita has more than 175 dedicated games, and access to more than 650 other titles thanks to its PSP, PS Mobile, and PS Classics compatibility. More than 60 percent of Vita games are purchased through the PlayStation Store, Tretton noted, and said the platform will only get stronger this year as developers expand support.

There are more than 85 titles expected this year, including Counterspy, Destiny of Spirits, Doki-Doki Universe, Killzone Mercenary, Tearaway, and Batman: Arkham Origins. God of War HD 1 and 2, Final Fantasy X and X2, as well as Flower and Dead Nation will also appear on the Vita. Tretton noted that number would expand further with PS4 through the system's Remote Play support over Wi-Fi.

"We're making Vita the ultimate companion device for PS4," Tretton said.

Next up were a succession of PS3 trailers for The Last of Us, the upcoming PlayStation move title Puppeteer, rain (now set for release this fall), and an extended look at Quantic Dream's Beyond: Two Souls, which launches October 8.

Sony kept the trailers coming with a new look at Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo 6, touting features like new suspension models and a new rendering engine.

Tretton returned just long enough to segue to the PS3 version of WB Games Montreal's Batman: Arkham Origins, a prequel which pits the Caped Crusader against adversaries like Deathstroke, Black Mask, and The Joker. Arkham Origins is set for release October 25, and Tretton said that Knightfall DLC and an Adam West TV show skin for Batman will be exclusive to Sony platforms.

Next up is Grand Theft Auto V, which will be featured in a $299 hardware bundle September 17. The system also comes with a GTA V headset.

Tretton said the PS3 was an "epic leap forward" when it launched, but the PS4 represents a vision to make another comparable jump. He then introduced Scony Compute Entertainment president and group CEO Andrew House to handle the PS4 announcements.

House said the PS4 is a console of unparalleled power, and touts the system architecture and cloud technology once again. He acknowledges that people have wanted to see the actual product, and throws to a video showing the black box in all its rhomboid glory. House said the new console's design is uncompromising, and one that lives up to the PlayStation's heritage.

With that out of the way, House moved to talk about the console's media services. PS4 is unique because Sony focuses on its fans and curates content it knows they will love, House said. He then introduced Sony Entertainment CEO and Sony Pictures Entertainment head Michael Lynton.

Lynton talked about the PS4's use as a platform for non-gaming entertainment, saying it will still be curated for gamers on PSN and PS4. Music and Video Unlimited will be there, as will Crackle. Lynton talks about the size and influence of Sony Pictures Unlimited, name-dropping TV shows like Community and Breaking Bad, and movies like The Amazing Spider-Man and Resident Evil. Lynton also said Sony was making new original content that will be available exclusively on PlayStation 4, and stressed again that everything would be tailored to the type of entertainment gamers want, know, and love.

House returned to the stage to talk about Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited service, which will be available at the PS4 launch. Support for Redbox Instant from Verizon will also be added soon for PS3, Vita, and PS4, and Flixster will launch on PSN this fall.

"Of course, at its core, the PS4 is about delivering breakthrough gaming experience," House said, transitioning to the actual games for the next-gen system. To do the honors, he introduced Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida.

Yoshida said for the last five years, the Worldwide Studios team (comprised of 40 individual studios) have been designing, developing, and testing the PS4 to make sure it's a platform on which big and small developers can realize their ideas. Yoshida said they looked at what developers wanted, as well as how consumers enjoyed their games these days. And that means social media.

Worldwide Studios has more than 30 titles in development for PS4, about 20 of which are expected to launch in the first year, 12 of them brand new IPs.

He then showed a trailer for one of those new IPs, The Order 1886. Developed by Ready at Dawn, the trailer showed a Victorian setting with anachronous flourishes like airships and rifles. A group of four knights ride into Whitechapel in a horse-drawn carriage, and then try to shoot their way out of a monstrous ambush.

The next trailer was for the new Killzone: Shadow Fall, showing off the newest iteration of the first-person shooter franchise. That was followed by DriveClub, Infamous: Second Son, and Knack. Yoshida confirmed that Killzone, DriveClub, and Knack will be out at launch for the PS4, while Second Son is set for the first quarter of 2014.

Next up was the first PS4 game from Quantic Dream, The Dark Sorcerer. The trailer showed a powerful wizard with a goblin familiar, angrily vowing revenge on the world until he flubs a line. At that point, much of the backdrop fades away to reveal a green screen, and a conversation begins between the actor playing The Dark Sorcerer and an off-screen director. The clip ended with a teaser suggesting more would be revealed tomorrow at 1 p.m.

Sony's VP of third-party relations Adam Boyes was out next to introduce Supergiant Games' Amir Rao and Greg Kasavin to show off their new game, Transistor, which will make its console debut on PS4 early next year. Boyes said Sony's commitment to independent creators goes much further, and mentions the ability for devs to self-publish on PS4.

He then turned to the PlayStation indie lineup, doing a rapid-fire introduction of indie games making their console debuts on PS4. The list started with Klei Entertainment's Don't Starve, then moved on to Tribute Games' Mercenary Kings, the IGF-nominated Octodad, Switchblade Monkey's Secret Ponchos, Ragtag Studios' stealth-action zombie puzzler Ray's the Dead, Outlast, and 7-bit Games' Galaxy. Lorne Lanning also made a cameo in the segment to show off a PS4 remake of the original Oddworld. 1

Boyes then introduced a video clip from Tetusya Nomura, director of Final Fantasy Versus XIII, who wanted to show off a new trailer for the long-awaited game. The game itself will be more of a 3D action title than a standard RPG, and at the end of the trailer, is revealed to have been renamed Final Fantasy XV.

Nomura also showed off a short teaser for Kingdom Hearts III, the latest Final Fantasy-Disney crossover game. No release dates were given for either Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts III, but both are coming to PS4. Additionally, Final Fantasy XIV will be console-exclusive to PS3 and PS4.

Next up was a live demo for Assassin's Creed IV, showing off a mission where the player stealthily tails another character outside of town to eavesdrop on a rendezvous. The player silently dispatches some patrolling guards as he continues to trail the targets. He leaps into action, but things go pear-shaped quickly and he quickly finds himself sprinting through a conflagration to get to a ship for some ship-to-ship warfare. The demo crashes halfway through, and that moves us along to Ubisoft's next title.

Jonathan Morin comes out to talk about Watch Dogs. Morin shows off a gameplay section of Watch Dogs with the player driving around trying to elude police patrols. When a helicopter spots the car, the player drives under Chicago's elevated train tracks and ditches the car in an alley. When a bystander spots the protagonist as the vigilante on the news, he begins to call 911. The player then interrupts, grabbing and smashing the cell phone before moving on.

The next order of business is to help his associate escape a police raid, which he accomplishes with the help of an automated security system, telling his friend T-Bone when and where to go to escape detection. A short firefight later, T-Bone has escaped and the player is once again on the run from police. Another player using a tablet companion app interrupts the action, ordering police choppers away from the scene. That leaves the main player free to take out the handful of police on foot nearby and escape on the Chicago River by speedboat. Boyes is back out to say PlayStation owners will get an extra hour of gameplay and an exclusive skin for Watch Dogs.

Boyes moves to sports and a look at NBA 2K14. Cover star LeBron James has a discussion with his virtual counterpart, and then it's onto The Elder Scrolls Online in one of the choppiest segues of the night. That game will launch on the PS4 in spring of 2014, and will have a beta goes live on Sony's system first.

The next trailer is for a world premiere for Avalanche Studios' new Mad Max game. Driving across the wasteland, Max stops alongside a man begging for death. Max looks at his shotgun and realizes he has just one shell left, so he gets in his car and drives off. Then he drives back at full speed and obliges the wounded man.

Tretton comes back out and says there are more than 140 games indevelopment for PS4. More than 100 of those are expected to be available in the first year, and nearly 40 of those titles will be exclusive to PlayStation.

Tretton then gets the biggest applause of the night by saying the PS4 will not impose any restrictions on used game sales for consumers.

"I guess that's a good thing," Tretton deadpans.

When a gamer buys a PS4 disc, they can trade in the game at retail, sell it to another person, lend it to a friend, or keep it forever, he said. A small "Sony" chant breaks out. Additionally, disc-based games won't be connected online to play or for any type of authentication, which draws still another round of cheers.

"And it won't stop working if you haven't authenticated online within 24 hours," he added in a direct jab to Microsoft's Xbox One.

With that out of the way, Tretton moved on to the PlayStation Network's social features, and promised that Sony would expand PlayStation Plus. He also said PlayStation Plus will carry over to PS4, so the same membership covers PS3, PS4, and Vita for less than $5 per month.

The catch is that "immersive multiplayer" for PS4 appears to be limited to PS Plus members, so gamers who don't pay extra won't be able to play online in the new system.

Back to PS Plus perks, Tretton mentioned that PS Plus members will get new titles every month for free, with Don't Starve, Outlast, and The Secret Ponchos among the first year's PS4 offerings. Additionally, DriveClub PS Plus Edition will be given free to members.

Bungie's Destiny is up next, as Tretton introduces a "world gameplay premiere" for the game. The clip followed a player dropped off into a dilapidated section of Old Russia, looking to meet up with others to explore the area. Two players explore a darkened industrial complex with a Guilty Spark-like floating AI orb called a ghost. Once the lights are turned on, the baddies come crawling out of the woodwork and the players fight them off with assault rifles, pistols, and some melee attacks.

They fight off the enemies, pillage some loot from them in the form of an exotic machinegun, and then meet up with their third squad member, a rocket launcher-carrying "titan." A fleet of ships streaks overhead, and the group join a public event, which appears to be a large-scale multiplayer battle with a dozen or so players cooperating to take down a giant adversary called a Devil Walker. The fight is brief, the enemy is downed, and a short clip teasing some of the game's narrative brings the demo to an end.

House said Sony has established a long-term exclusive partnership with Bungie and Activision that will grow over the years, but neglected to detail what it entails. Destiny is set for release in 2014.

House then turned to talk about PS4 integration of Gaikai, the streaming game service Sony acquired. The PS4 cloud gaming service will launch in the US in 2014 for PS3 and PS4, with Vita added at a later date.

Finally, House dropped the price of the system, announcing it as available for $399, which gets a significant round of applause. In Europe, it will sell for 399 euros or £349. No release date was given.

"At PlayStation, concepts like true consumer ownership and consumer trust are central to everything we do," House said before concluding the show.

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Antony Carter Senior Programmer, Epic Games8 years ago
Well as im still up somehow after 4am, they really nailed it on price, and after watching all the conference streams today, the amazing but also i suppose saddest part was that the biggest cheer from the audience all day was for announcing No DRM, great news but it shouldn't of even needed to be said.
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
Welp, aside from gamers having to finally pay up for PS Plus accounts (a good thing Sony NEEDS to explain to them point by point so they understand that free PSN has to eventually end at some point), this is great news overall. Still, no major Vita games at the event (they may be on the show floor, I presume?) was a bit annoying... overall, advantage Sony.
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At the end of the day its going to come down to which system has the better content. Apple products cost alot more than other similar products but they still out sell all the others. Which in turn makes more developers develop for ios. But the self publish function may be the dagger in MS xbox one heart.

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Gareth Donaghey Customer Support Agent, Blizzard Entertainment8 years ago
"Its all about the games" was the main message from all the execs. With Microsoft it was "Your console is now a TV".

There's still a few small things Sony have to disclose, like hardware specs and for what price, but they completely showed up Microsoft in every way.
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Rick Lopez Illustrator, Graphic Designer 8 years ago
BREAKING NEWS: The PlayStation 4 is Region-Free

I am going to gamestop today to pre-order my console. I never ever do this. Im one of the most critical people when it comes to purchasing anything, making sure I get the best deal, waiting patiently for price drops etc. If SONY can make me go make a Pre-order today and get my console on day one, that says alot, cause thats exactly what Im gonna do. I heard everything i WANTED to hear, it was all clear and they didnt beat around the bush. they were straight to the point.

Everything good I wanted to hear I heard. Price, features, games, everything. They nailed it once again. No always connected online authentication, and as far as I am concerned no cameras spying on everthing you do no limits to who plays or I lend my games to.. I had hoped for a VITA price drop, but at the end of the day SONY killed it. They destroyed microsoft, quit literally in my opinion. To me they won E3 this year. And the price point of 399$ is close to what I was hoping for. At the end of the day I think they offer plenty of value with that price. Really loved alot of the xclusives and the announcement of indie self publishing. Also they offer a pretty good library of music movies and services to support them, with any hindurence.

In all this Im still waiting for Nintendo's announcements. I have a huge heart for Nintendo and am excited for them as well... but on to SONY

These are just a few of the high lights of the conference.

-Kingdom Hearts 3
-Final Fantasy 15(versus 13 renamed and pushed to next gen like I have been suggesting for years that they do.)
-No always online, DRM or authentication
-I can buy, lend, resell and own my games without a ball and chain attached to them
-No privacy concerns as all the camera, voice command motion detection stuff is not mandatory.
-Indie self-publishing... Rain was very impresive.
-and the box does other stuff like movies, music and internet... netflix, redbox, Hulu.. etc.
-Price was close to what I was hoping for.
-They had awsome exclusives Killzone, Second Son, Drive club
-Third party support. Metal Gear Solid 5, Mirrors Edge 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, Final fantasy 15, Final fantasy 14 and Watchdogs
-They showed the box
-PS4 is Region Free

-They are charging $5 dollars a month, which I feel is fair. id love PS+ to be for free, but sooner or later it had to come down to this. Again, Im not really unhappy with it.
-I would have wanted to hear about a VITA price drop.

Finally we have this: Troll Level, Legendary

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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
@Gareth: Do specs REALLY matter at this point? The games looked fine to me. It seems that the only people who want to see them are the dedicated PC fans who will babble on about how they can build a better rig for sixteen dollars less than what the PS3 costs... ;^P
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David Radd Senior Editor, IndustryGamers8 years ago
Sony brought it for sure. Once in a blue moon there's an E3 where the tectonic plates of the industry shifts... and I think this was one such expo.
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Tim Ogul Illustrator 8 years ago
Holy ####. PS4 it is.
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
As I noted on facebook, "Mama Said Knock You Out" is playing in every Sony office in the world right about now. Microsoft had some good games to show off, yes indeed... but their refusal to sit down and clarify stuff and even before that not realizing that they were pushing a program that was TOO disruptive to how gamers currently like to handle their used content and play without other restrictions is hurting them.

Granted, there's still time for them to at least discuss everything the games media STILL needs answers to and Sony has to let the cranky folks nattering on about PS Plus that it's a damn good deal (the free games PAY for the service!), but yeah - unless there's a big reveal after the reveal up their sleeves, Microsoft has to admit they've been bested.

Now, onto Nintendo. My Wii U is getting used, but not enough... so tomorrow, er, later today should be fun...
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Adrian Herber8 years ago
It sounds like Sony are not going to do any online-based DRM with the PS4. What will we have instead? Disc-based DRM, and therefore no option for downloading full games? Or no DRM, allowing one purchased disc to be purchased by a group of friends and then passed around for them all to install and play at once?

Disc-based DRM could really make the PS4 look dated in a few years as broadband speeds and availability continues to improve, and no DRM would obviously reduce profitability quite substantially.
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Justin Shuard J - E translator 8 years ago
Well, that was the fastest KO in a console war ever
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Tim Ogul Illustrator 8 years ago
What will we have instead? Disc-based DRM, and therefore no option for downloading full games? Or no DRM, allowing one purchased disc to be purchased by a group of friends and then passed around for them all to install and play at once?
I am a bit concerned about this. Microsoft's DRM was "scary", but it all made sense for what services they were offering. If Sony doesn't involve the same conditions, then they can't offer the same convenience. For the time being we have to assume it will be no different than the PS3.
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Nicholas Pantazis Senior Editor, VGChartz Ltd8 years ago
@ Adrian Console gamers don't care about disc installation as much as they care about being able to trade and resell games around groups of friends and to used stores. If you want to "play permanently without a disc" PS4 offers a download option. This whole thing looks very bad for Microsoft, with a much more expensive and restrictive console full of features that gamers don't actually want, and even find obtrusive (like Kinect).

That said, Sony really didn't announce much in the way of games, so while the hardware being the most powerful and much cheaper is really appealing, we haven't seen much at all to say what this platform will have at launch or over the next year.
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Klaus Preisinger Freelance Writing 8 years ago
Sony announced people had to pay $5/month for online play on PSN now and still scored a landslide victory over Microsoft. How crazy is that?
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
Well, PS Plus adds some great benefits at the end of the day (the free games and assorted discounts pay for the service if you think about it), so in a way, it's insane NOT to sign up. That and one has to wonder how much they were losing by keeping PSN free for so long. Now... it WOULD have been nice to keep it free, but have ad support as a tradeoff, but I'd bet real money that gamers would HATE to sit through those five-minutes or so of game ads and such before they could play...

Some will hate it if they ONLY buy one or two games every few months or only play online once in a while. But I think most will see it for the deal it is and sign up at some point. Hell, Xbox Live users have been doing that for a while and some trumpet Gold as the best thing since sliced cheese...
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Andreia Quinta Photographer 8 years ago
Well that's it then, Sony will take the trophy back this next generation. Price, no 2nd hand restrictions, entanglement with the vita for those who care, easier manipulation for devs, and even the box is beautiful.

They won already, MS flopped it big time.
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Stephan Schwabe Multichannelmanagement, Telefonica8 years ago
Sony made a home run. I wonder how Don Mattrick will react to this in the next few month.
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Morville O'Driscoll Blogger & Critic 8 years ago
and nearly 40 of those titles will be exclusive to PlayStation.
This is interesting... Microsoft have subtly redefined "exclusive" to mean "console-exclusive", and I wonder if Sony are doing the same thing.

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Simon Lawrence Production Manager, SEGA Europe8 years ago
PS Plus is an absolute bargain. Three PS3 games and two Vita games each month. I have it and I only have a Vita. Not all the games are great, but some are real gems that I wouldn't have played (Thomas was alone, Velocity Ultra) others are games I may have purchased. Rayman Origins is June's release for example. I don't even play online :/

Before the reveal I was interested in the PS4 due to the Vita connectivity. Everything Sony said plus the price has me firmly in the PS4 camp. Note, I currently have a 360 not a PS3 so I'm no Sony fanboy.
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Jef Stuyck Game Programmer, Fishing Cactus8 years ago
Seriously I am tired of this equalization of dollar and euro. If you look @ the current rate than the price of 400 dollar == 300 euro's. That is 100 euro difference than what they are asking for!!!! What a joke. Why isn't anyone saying something about this. Do I really have to ship it from the US to get the right price.

Same for the xbox 500 dollar's == 375 euro's and they have the BALLS to ask 500 euro for it!!! And everyone acts like this is normal.
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
Heh. I like that it's FLAT this time out. My PS3 will sit on top of it if possible... (Hey, I'm running out of room)...
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
@Jef: Is sales tax included where you are? Here in the US, that $399 isn't a FLAT price, as each state has different tax rates. Here in NYC, no matter where I order mine from, I'll need to pay 8.75% extra in sales tax (thank goodness for free shipping!) as well as that on every game or peripheral ordered, so it does add up...

THAT said, I don't know why the price isn't scaled to reflect the same thing worldwide - perhaps someone here can clarify this?
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Aleksi Ranta Category Management Project Manager 8 years ago
regarding pricing, indeed VAT especially plays into this.

You cant just take Dollars and directly convert them. In Finland we have a VAT of 24% and lucky Greg W has 8.75% ;)
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Morville O'Driscoll Blogger & Critic 8 years ago
Well, the UK price is 349. VAT (Value Added Tax) here is 20% of the price <snipped for incorrect calculations>.

Edit: Base price is actually 290 (since 20% VAT is on top of that, and I worked it from the final price). Still not that much more than the US price, it's just the UK Government hits the consumer harder than US States do with tax.

And, on the subject of pricing, the PS4 price is pretty damn nice. Depending upon my financials at release date (and games, of course), it might actually be a day one purchase for me.

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I guess one has to consider what the higher spec version with bells and whistles will cost to enjoy the full gaming experience + vat
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 8 years ago
Well, I feel for you guys out that way, that's for sure. I didn't think it was that bad. You learn something new every day, I guess. Of course, I can always wait until the PS4 sells out and pay almost $1000 or more for it on eBay that first week, but I only LOOK crazy.
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Tim Ogul Illustrator 8 years ago
Seriously I am tired of this equalization of dollar and euro. If you look @ the current rate than the price of 400 dollar == 300 euro's. That is 100 euro difference than what they are asking for!!!! What a joke. Why isn't anyone saying something about this. Do I really have to ship it from the US to get the right price.
Well then get to it and lower the value of the Euro already. I'd like to be able to take a nice vacation over there without having to spend a fortune. ;)
And, on the subject of pricing, the PS4 price is pretty damn nice. Depending upon my financials at release date (and games, of course), it might actually be a day one purchase for me.
Yeah, I genuinely didn't plan on buying a system this fall, and I still think $399 is only a "good deal" in relation to Microsoft's tomfoolery, but I would actually consider getting a PS4 in the fall at this point, IF the exclusives are compelling enough, or if they can make the case that the PS4 versions of games like Watch_Dogs or AC4 are significantly better than they would be on my 360. It could definitely happen, and I'm already committed to getting one by the time KH3 comes out, perhaps even FFXVI.

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Daniel Hughes Studying PhD Literary Modernism, Bangor University8 years ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again: "winning" an E3 conference battle does not equal winning the sales war. As Nicolas pointed out, Sony showed very little in the way of games that will hit during PS4's first year, while Microsoft look to have more than a dozen exclusives out during that initial year, with Halo 5 (presumably) coming at the end of next year. That's a seriously impressive showing from a company that before this E3 seemed to have by far the smallest amount of internal development weight to throw behind their own console. Unfortunately for Microsoft, what will matter at the end of the year and more importantly, next year, is how many restrictions and how high a price people are willing to put up with in order to get access to those games.

By all means, Sony have won the PR battle initially, but what matters is what hits shelves. We won't know how the mass market truly feels about Xbox One's restrictions until the device is on the shelves and the software does the speaking. It was an impressive show by both Microsoft and Sony, and Sony hit Microsoft where they were weak, but these couple of hours in LA won't decide the fate of an entire generation of consoles.
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Ga Media and Technology 8 years ago
Sony did it with ps3, apple did it with iPhone 5 and now microsoft doing it with windows8 and xbox one.. ExBox One , the one to rue them all
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Nick Parker Consultant 8 years ago
Yes Daniel, the name of the game has always been the games. This generation has more peripheral services than ever before which may tip the balance for some consumers over just the game line-up.

It's still early days with regard to months before launch for these consoles so could we expect a couple of U-turns from Microsoft? Sony will be feeling pleased but it should not rest on its laurels but focus on a smooth launch period - still some questions over which territories will have the inventory for a meaningful release before year end - out of stocks is a nice problem to have but not if it leaves the door open for the competition.
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Shakil Mohammed8 years ago
Well looks liike that settles it PS4 is going to dominate the next generation hands down. Microsoft you screwed yourself over while Sony went for sense.
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Klaus Preisinger Freelance Writing 8 years ago
Don't count consumers before both consoles are hatched. Microsoft was down for the count with the original Xbox before and look how they struck back with the 360.

Microsoft has a few weird ideas, but the same people complaining now will not hold it against MS if they change. Prices can be lowered. Used game schemes extending to more than a few partners can be programmed. A computer does not care if he has to check every 24h or ever 100h. Both are meaningless numbers to it. Operating systems can be made to adapt to Kinect plugs being pulled. XBO is not limited by its abilities, but by its system of arbitrary rules.

MS is a software giant having a few troubles with its software side of the new console. I trust they will create a chimera of the Borg Collective and Queen of Hearts to address this.
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Elikem Jubey8 years ago
GGs Microsoft.
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David Serrano Freelancer 8 years ago
@Tim Ogul

I don't know how it will work on the PS4 but when you install a game to the HD from a disk on the 360, the disk becomes a dongle. You can't play an installed game unless the disk is in the console.
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Patrick Williams Medicine and Research 8 years ago
A Vita price drop with the release of the console later this year would turn Sony's 3 points into a grand slam.
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Ken Varley Owner & Freelance Developer, Writer, Devpac8 years ago
I can see the PS4 Eye will be a wasted purchase. I know why Sony left it optional, to reduce cost.

That also means that you can't guarantee PS4 users will have one. Just like Move, it will not gather much dev support :(

I'm sure they could have included it and kept the RRP around 375.
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