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Erotic game "kicked off" Steam Greenlight

No Reply Games title Seduce Me removed from site

Developer No Reply Games has revealed that its adult game Seduce Me has been removed from the Steam Greenlight site.

"We submitted the game on Thursday, when Steam Greenlight launched, but they took it down almost straight away," said co-founder Miriam Bellard.

"Many people still view games as 'for children' in spite of the fact that the average gamer is 30 years old."

No Reply Games is based in Amsterdam, and this is its first project. The game promises "erotic cut scenes" and is based on "the lives of American socialites and celebrities. The game revels in their decadence and glamour." And, according to the screenshots, nipples and bikinis.

"The gaming establishment is fine with violence and gore but is uncomfortable with sexual themes," concluded co-founder Andrejs Skuja, who previously worked with Guerrilla Games.

Steam Greenlight states in its terms and conditions that "your game must not contain offensive material or violate copyright or intellectual property rights."

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Latest comments (18)

Hugo Dubs Interactive Designer 6 years ago
Yes, this should be up to the people who vote.

Games with people getting bullets in their head, falling down and die in blood seas are eligibles, so why a naked girl or boy would be a problem...
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Gareth Martin Senior Programmer, Epic Games6 years ago
In my opinion offensive is not the right word in this context, something should not be labelled as offensive unless a person or group is being portrayed unflatteringly by it, and they take offence to that.

People / groups may consider erotica obscene (which could be a valid reason for disallowing it on Steam Greenlight), but that is not the same as offensive.

Sorry for the mini rant.
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Tim Hesse Product Development Executive 6 years ago
Having seen a number of submissions over the years tied to adult/erotic content (some actually interesting) and with the obvious size of the adult entertainment industry, there is market for this type of media, a market that traditional game publishers won't touch due to reputation.

There's money to be made here.
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Alex Bunch Proof Reader, ZiCorp Studios6 years ago
Valve is an American company therefore you can have all the violence you like but any sexual content is a no go. One day American will grow up.

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Alex Bunch on 4th September 2012 7:59pm

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Hugo Dubs Interactive Designer 6 years ago
Valve is an American company therefore you can have all the violence you like but any sexual content is a no go. One day American will grow up.
Isn't it the biggest porn market/industry too?
There's money to be made here.
Yeah, following the same idea, the porn industry is what is driving almost everything from VHS to the Internet. Why wouldn't it be the same for video games? Anyway, Im not into naked virtual girls, but I don't understand why it is such a big deal when 13 years old boys are already playing battlefield all day long...
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Morville O'Driscoll Blogger & Critic 6 years ago
It might just be an issue with age ratings, though it's a bit of a cop-out if it is. Anyone who accepts the Steam license has to be over 13 years of age, I believe, but given the American sensitivity to sex/nudity - in all media, not just gaming - it could just be that Valve are hedging against anything too controversial with Greenlight right now. The last I read, inclusion of sex/nudity bumped-up the ratings of films. It's also fairly obvious that sex/sexuality is more of a talking point in American media and entertainment than violence. Not defending Valve's move here - because it should have been left for people to vote on - but I can see why they might have removed it.

Also, there's nothing to stop No Reply Games from submitting their game to Valve through the standard approval process, correct? It's just the Greenlight submission which was removed, far as I can tell.

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Morville O'Driscoll on 4th September 2012 9:22pm

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Alex Bunch Proof Reader, ZiCorp Studios6 years ago
'Isn't it the biggest porn market/industry too?'

It is but it's like the dodgy uncle no one talks about, even though porn takes in more revenue than the Hollywood film industry. It comes down to the overly religious nature of the USA. Europe and the far east are so much more relaxed.
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Christopher Bowen Editor in Chief, Gaming Bus6 years ago
Valve is a private company. They are entitled to put up whatever they want to put up. End of story. They don't have to open themselves up to negative PR and possible litigation if they don't want to.
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Greg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 6 years ago
Right you are, Chris. I'd say the LAST thing Valve needs to be doing is running around defending themselves from parents groups, the easily offended or anyone else who'll use that game to claim it's being targeted at kids (as Faux News did with the original Mass Effect). That developer can self-publish their game, take it to Kickstarter or distribute it through some other service that won't mind the controversy.

Hell, they should just contact an adult film company and ask if they'd like to get into the game publishing business. I'm sure something would come out of that. Er, no pun intended...
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Henry Durrant Programmer, SUMO Digital6 years ago
< Joke about needing Valve Redlight >
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Sam Brown Lead Audio Programmer, TT Games6 years ago
@Morville: From watching the trailer on Youtube this is actually a full-on porn game, not just occasional nudity and discreet camera angles. I hasten to add that I agree with you completely about the double standards applied to sex and violence, but there's no way Valve could have let this game stay on with no age check system in place.
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Alfonso Sexto Lead Tester, Ubisoft Germany6 years ago
Taken down by Steam; quite the proof that not even the industry takes himself seriously. Sad...
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Farhang Namdar Lead Game Designer Larian Studios 6 years ago
If steam was based in Germany, Holland or France this wouldn't have happened!
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Pawel Pieciak CEO & CGC (Chief Games Creator), 2P Games6 years ago
I agree with Andrejs - I think that lot of people around the world is just confused what is right and what is wrong. Just to straighten it out: violence = wrong, sexual themes = right - we shouldn't pretend that we don't know where are babies coming from - this is just denying our nature.
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Keldon Alleyne Strategic keyboard basher, Avasopht Ltd6 years ago
We're over thinking this. It's valve's platform so they get to choose their own rules. Nothing is stopping them from creating their game and publishing it on the Internet. Minecraft did pretty fine without Facebook, Steam, a Console release or microtransactions, so why is this even an issue?
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Matthew Handrahan European Deputy Editor, GamesIndustry.biz6 years ago
If you want to read a full interview with No Reply Games, follow the link:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-09-05-no-sex-please-were-gamers
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Jeremie Sinic6 years ago
Would be interesting to see a game removed for being "too violent". Surely everyone would agree with Valve, right?
Edit: This said, I would like to hear it if Valve has anything more to say about this.
Sometimes on the App Store games get rejected not for the reason invoked by their developers (who'd love some controversy as free publicity) but because of some simple technical issue with a game.
Hopefully, Valve will try to clear things out. Otherwise, it's a big let down from an otherwise great company.

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Jeremie Sinic on 6th September 2012 2:40am

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Mikkel S Studying Game Deisgn, IT University of Copenhagen6 years ago
How is this any worse than the Amensia? A monster that is stiched together is less "offensive" than a erotic game? There has not even been any ingame screens - so there is nothing to really base these claims on. This is bad judgement i'd say.
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