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GameStop: Kinect will outsell Move this Christmas

Senior exec also says Black Ops is the most pre-ordered game in company's history

GameStop's senior VP of marketing Bob McKenzie has said that he expects Kinect to outsell Move this Christmas, and that Call of Duty: Black Ops is the most pre-ordered game in company history.

Speaking to Eurogamer, McKenzie said that sales of the Kinect hardware in the US had actually been better than the retailer was initially expecting.

"I'd say right now Microsoft's Kinect is looking to be the winner of the two for us. We're very happy with the sell-through over the weekend. It has met our expectations and actually exceeded our initial forecasts."

"I do have them both, obviously, and the Move Sports bundle is a great option," he added, "but I knew for my family – with an eight-year-old daughter and ten-year-old boy – that Kinect was really going to be the thing that was more geared towards my household."

No official sales figures are available yet for Kinect, but Sony's Move is thought to have sold over 2.5 million units worldwide after Sony's Andrew House told press that 1.5 million had been sold in Europe and Jack Tretton revealed that over 1 million had been shipped in the US.

During the same call with Eurogamer, McKenzie also told our sister site that Call of Duty: Black Ops is the most pre-ordered game in the store's history, which would indicate that sales could well be even higher than those of its predecessor, Modern Warfare 2.

What he doesn't think will affect sales of the game is the fact that it was made by Treyarch instead of Infinity Ward.

"With each one they've done a better job," he told Eurogamer. "They're both making quality products, they both have a strong following and they're both known for great gameplay."

The review embargo for Black Ops has now expired, and reviews are up. Scores seem to be a little lower than they were for Modern Warfare and its sequel, but still in the 8-9 range.

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RJ Festejo Creative Director, Microsoft10 years ago
I can't call this one... On paper, you'd think that the Move would win this battle. But M$ have thrown so much money at the Kinect launch. It's casual as hell. But then there's the price.

Can't wait to see who wins this Christmas - and, ultimately, what Nintendo does next to change the game again :p
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Aye really intrested to see what Nintendo does to step their game up.

It will all depend on the marketing strategy of the 2 peripherals, I know a lot of people buying kinect just to get Kinectamals for their kids but the novelty wears out fast.

Got some friends who bought PSMOVE just to play MAG, the novelty wore off aswell and its back to the old trusty controller, same will happen to kinect and same happend to the Wii remote (Wii sports after unboxing your very first Wii anyone? ;))

In my opinion it's just a phase, trying to get motion controller on the market on all 3 systems, we'll see were it leads us in the end.
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Terence Gage Freelance writer 10 years ago
To be honest, with a half billion dollar marketing budget, I would expect Kinect to outsell Move - particularly when Sony have previously said they can't compete with MS in marketing terms.

Anyway, what's the betting Nintendo will again be the winners in the motion control market this Christmas?! ;)
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Antony Cain Lecturer, Teesside University10 years ago
"Anyway, what's the betting Nintendo will again be the winners in the motion control market this Christmas?! ;)"

I wouldn't bet against it :)

This kotaku effort summed up Kinect for me

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Antony Cain on 9th November 2010 10:45am

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Josef Brett Animator 10 years ago
Well, Nintendo are doing the 3DS aren't they. I think the focus will be on that next year and they'll let the Wii tail off until it dies.
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@Josef I wouldn't write the Wii off yet, surely they'll focus on 3DS but they got some quality titles coming out soon, Zelda Skyward Sword for example.

One of the Reasons to remove my almost 2 years layer of dust from my Wii ;)
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Terence Gage Freelance writer 10 years ago
Josef, the Wii may be losing momentum but I still think sales will be through the roof this Christmas, as they always are - I don't know about other countries, but Nintendo have already started blanket marketing in the UK.

I think the Wii's a long way from dying just yet.
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Charlie Moritz Studying Philosophy with Psychology, University of Warwick10 years ago
I sincerely doubt that the Move will be the lesser of the two. Hardcore gamers still make up the majority of the people owning next gen consoles (the casual market is much more geared towards the handheld and smartphone platforms) and hardcore gamers already dislike Kinect. I reckon the Move will beat Kinect hands down!
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Jonathan O'Connor10 years ago
Good point Charlie, those harcore gamers are loving Move at the moment.......Umm......
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Terence Gage Freelance writer 10 years ago
"and hardcore gamers already dislike Kinect."

I think it's a bit soon to be saying that - some of the Kinect launch games have actually been getting pretty good reviews (as in 7/10 territory), and it's not even out in the UK or Europe yet, so give it a chance first!

Besides, I don't think MS are really aiming Kinect at the hardcore crowd -- yet. Let's see if the Wii audience show any interest in it.
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Flavio Barboni Journalist 10 years ago
I only expect what we'll can have with Kinect in hardcore games. The point is: Willl be there hardcore gaming without controllers?
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Josef Brett Animator 10 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I love my Wii and still play it (relatively) regularly, but aside from Skyward Sword how many other games are coming out next year that you're dying to play?!
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Jim Webb Executive Editor/Community Director, E-mpire Ltd. Co.10 years ago
^Dragon Quest X, The Grinder, Conduit 2, Epic Mickey (granted that's this year), The Last Story, XenoBlade, Vitality Sensor (rumored to work with the rumored Red Steel 3) and more.
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Josef Brett Animator 10 years ago
Fair play Jimmy, that's a list alright!

Personally, they don't really excite me (except Epic Mickey which I'm interested in more from a Disney-fan point of view).

I really don't see the support from Nintendo coming through in next years (announced) line-up.

Do we know if the Vitality Sensor is happening?
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Jim Webb Executive Editor/Community Director, E-mpire Ltd. Co.10 years ago
At this, it is still coming. And if some leaked info is to be believed, the sensor works much differently than first expected. Originally, most people suspecting it was just a simple heart rate monitor but the leaked info, if to be believed, shows it as a hemoglobin density monitor which opens up all kinds of emotional and physical health tracking. Eternal Darkness 2, please.

Nintendo claimed they would have shown the VS at this years E3 but that the venue isn't well suited to proper demonstration due to the frantic and exciting nature of the expo which would skew monitor readings. This makes it less likely that we'll see the VS at any major venue prior to launch.
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Terence Gage Freelance writer 10 years ago
I heard a rumour a while back that Nintendo might have sold the Vitality Sensor to Ubisoft...?

Anyway, although there are a few good-looking Wii games on the way (particularly Epic Mickey - PS Move port please Disney!), it does seem like there aren't many more major releases from Nintendo inbound after Zelda (and Donkey Kong) - unless there's a lot I'm unaware of. I know they're focusing on the 3DS launch for now, but it would be nice to see some more first party software lined up for the Wii too.
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Josef Brett Animator 10 years ago
Cheers for the VS info Jimmy. It had gone very quiet, but if the leaks are true, then not revealing it at big shows makes sense.
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Jim Webb Executive Editor/Community Director, E-mpire Ltd. Co.10 years ago
Terrence, they didn't sell it to Ubisoft but Ubisoft had a game they were wanting to make for VS but it kept getting delayed as Nintendo continued to tweak the peripheral. Ubisoft decided to license out basic heart monitoring tech for their title instead.

I will admit that things seem quieter for Nintendo than usually but at the same time they've been this way for the past 3 years now when they switched to a new media release policy that keeps things under wraps until near launch. How long prior to release of New Super Mario Bros Wii, Epic Kirby, Donkey Kong Country Returns and the new Mario Collection did Nintendo unveil those titles? Only a few months. Nintendo hides things better than Area 51.
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Alex Loffstadt Community Manager, Outso Ltd10 years ago
IMO this will come down to content, price and space.

The Wii wrote the book here as it did away with the classic issue of buying a peripheral of just one game.
Wiimote and Nunchuk cover most bases, and the add on for guns etc. are cheap. Plus there was no fear about having spent a substantial wedge for just one game.

Hard Core gamers may not like Move/Kinect etc. but then again as products Wii, Move and Kinect aren't aimed at them.

Move costs as much as a normal controller, the UI is similar to the Wii, Sony players know EyeToy games, IIRC PS3 has had some limited form of motion sensitivity in the handsets, and there should be some solid content coming through.

Kinect, has issues, firstly it costs as much as some consoles (it's worth remembering that the PS3 caught ALOT of flak on price), there is something reassuring about having a button to press and something tangable when you're playing a game (well guess you could hold a banana but hey...), and I've not heard much about titles coming through apart from the in house stuff from Rare (and honestly they took a pasting on Banjo Kazooi so will be interesting to see how they bounce back). Speaking to friends there are also concerns about having enough room.

Kinect may outsell move... I wouldn't bank on it.

If we're talking motion controls what is most interesting is how most of the quality titles appear to be coming from in house. There is money to be made and people enjoy the games, it awaits to be seen if devs can break away from traditional UI and do something truly innovative. :)
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Vlad Zotta Operations Director / COO, Netzah Game10 years ago
McKenzie did not say that Move will outsell Kinect. I hate it when journos have no idea what they're reporting. He said that "Kinect is looking to be the winner of the two for us". This actually means that the revenue GS gets from selling Kinect is higher than the one from selling Move. He goes on buy saying that sales are better than their forcasts, meaning the total revenue they will get this holiday from selling Kinect will be higher. This is why, in the next paragraph, he is advertising Kinect.

SO, I don't know if, in terms of actual sales, Kinect will outsell Move (it's a very bold idea when Move has a 2.5 mil. advance), but retailers are pushing Kinect because of the revenue they get from selling it.
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