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Epsilon eSports drops Team Impact after trash talking

Epsilon eSports drops Team Impact after trash talking

Fri 16 Aug 2013 8:09am GMT / 4:09am EDT / 1:09am PDT
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Players taunted competitors and audience over earnings

Competitive gaming outfit Team Impact has lost its Epsilon eSports sponsorship as a result of its bad behaviour at the UMG AtLANta tournament last week.

Team Impact taunted competitors over the amount they would earn at the match, saying "I wipe my *** with your salary," and the audience with the words "look at my bank account." Impact's Adam "Killa" Sloss, according to eSports Earnings, has made $141,625 from his competitive gaming career.

Epsilon eSports said the trash talking had gone too far, and revealed it was an issue it had tried to address with the team in the past.

"Upon the recruitment of Impact, we were conscious of the issues of their public image, and tried to set a base of acceptable behaviour by speaking with the line-up. Regardless of their attitudes towards nV being amicable and trash talk having a place in every sport, the public's response was justifiably negative towards the overall behaviour of the squad," said Epsilon's Samy Mazouzi in a statement.

"It is thus with regret that today we must release the American Call of Duty line-up due to a lack of professional discipline during the Black Ops 2 tournament at UMG AtLANtA 2013."

It added that players had a responsibility to set an example, and that eSports players must recognise that they will be analysed and observed like celebrities.

"The way I acted this past weekend was not professional and I do not condone this type of behaviour in any way. I respect my fans and also all fans of EnVy," tweeted Marcus Carter of Team Impact.

"At the end of the day we all love Call Of Duty and we want it to grow. I understand that if I continue this it will not aid to the growth of competitive COD. Once again I apologise and I will make it up to you guys soon!"

Video of the trash talking, which includes shouting and swearing, can be seen below courtesy of Ringhouse.

13 Comments

Keldon Alleyne
Handheld Developer

439 410 0.9
My yawn just yawned.

Posted:A year ago

#1

Sam Brown
Programmer

235 164 0.7
Well, as Rob Fahey's eSports article says, FPSs don't make for good spectator viewing, so hopefully CoD will disappear from the eSports scene and take all the players with a 12-year-old adolescent mentality with it. ^__~

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Sam Brown on 16th August 2013 11:30am

Posted:A year ago

#2

Christophe Danguien
games developer

69 83 1.2
"trash talk having a place in every sport" -> That's where those guys are wrong, it DOESN"T HAVE A PLACE IN ANY SPORT. Seriously, When football leagues are trying to fight that, those morons come and say yeah it's normal. Nope it's not normal, if you have respect for the other players, there's no trash talk at all, joke around yes, but no trash. morons
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Posted:A year ago

#3

Christophe Danguien
games developer

69 83 1.2
I'm surprised nobody from the audience or other teams punched those guys in the face seriously or beat them up hard to make them see the light...they should go to a psychiatric hospital seriously or rehab, or be banned from esports, they tweeted to just try to calm the bad wave down and make people forgive them but they don't think it.

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Christophe Danguien on 16th August 2013 2:26pm

Posted:A year ago

#4

Christophe Danguien
games developer

69 83 1.2
As some people says COD players mentality is shit, you can actually it is true. I went to see the final of counter-stricke competition a few years back, America against Danemark, and they were really respectfull of each other and cool....is it the kids mentality of these days or just this team being trash bags ?

Posted:A year ago

#5

Keldon Alleyne
Handheld Developer

439 410 0.9
Trash talk is nothing to do with age or sophistication, it is a cultural phenomenon that from the outside is difficult to perceive, much like "battling" is to people who aren't a part of the rap circle.

People from the outside just don't understand what is going on with battling and I imagine it is very much the same with trash talk.

In fact just to bring up one you can think of, what about boxing or cage fighting (or other competitive forms of fighting such as Karate championships). That is far more damaging than talk, yet we find it easy to understand that the combatants still have respect for each other. The reason why we can understand that is because we are willing to, and we are willing to because we've been accustomed to it through culture.

And that is it, the culture of the "others".

Edited 1 times. Last edit by Keldon Alleyne on 16th August 2013 2:43pm

Posted:A year ago

#6

Paul Johnson
Managing Director / Lead code monkey

823 1,061 1.3
Heh, they're gamers. It's their job to insult everyone. Isn't it?

Posted:A year ago

#7

Jim Webb
Executive Editor/Community Director

2,266 2,400 1.1
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the next generation of athletes.


I blame the parents.


My hope for the future sheds another petal.

Posted:A year ago

#8

Greg Wilcox
Creator, Destroy All Fanboys!

2,174 1,122 0.5
This is pretty hi-larious. USA wants E-Sports to succeed, so out goes the trash (making the "sport" acceptable) and in comes the "nice" team of digital killers the country can embrace. Yeah, this is going to be a total age of generic suck mixed with those trying to pump this up into Olympic-quality competition. Yuck.

Posted:A year ago

#9

Klaus Preisinger
Freelance Writing

1,090 1,044 1.0
If trash talk is part of the desired profile of a product, the participants of the product are encouraged to perform trash talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1EVtvHvwU

If trash talk is not part of the desired profile, you switch out your product's representatives should they ever decide to add this layer of trash talk on their own initiative.

Because that is what is being managed here. A product, not a sport.

Posted:A year ago

#10

Keldon Alleyne
Handheld Developer

439 410 0.9
@Klaus: but that's the problem. Trash talk doesn't need to be part of the 'product' to exist. It's often the unplanned aspects that come naturally from individual characters that become interesting. It's when you try to formalise it that it loses its essence. Now I'm sure people enjoy the scripted dramas in WWE, but that takes away any sense of spontaneity to it.

So you have ordered service versus spontaneity. Some people can only think in terms of one, and some can understand how to incorporate both, but then others try to turn one into the other.

I couldn't care much for trash talk, I just think the abruptness of it comes off a little tactless. Any fool can take someone out by force but it takes real ingenuity to coerce someone into becoming an ally.

Posted:A year ago

#11

Klaus Preisinger
Freelance Writing

1,090 1,044 1.0
@Keldon
There is always somebody who pays the bills and therefore in charge of things. He can enforce his vision, because he holds the contracts.

If his employees then go rouge from his point of view, he is left with two choices. Comprehend that there is a flaw to the own expectations of employee behavior and adjust it by doing something about it, e.g. Media Training. Or assign blame, put the offender in the ejector seat and replace him by 11 o' clock and have you hands washed clean by 11.05.

Since a person playing games on stage is easier replaced than Wayne Rooney, the actions taken might differ from trash talker to trash talker. Whether we agree or not is of little consequence, we are not the contract owners.

Posted:A year ago

#12

Keldon Alleyne
Handheld Developer

439 410 0.9
@Keldon
There is always somebody who pays the bills and therefore in charge of things. He can enforce his vision, because he holds the contracts.
But what exactly is your point? I know this. Everyone knows this. It is everyone's prerogative to decide how they run their business. They can make good decisions and bad decisions. They can be tactful and they can be tactless. They can be who and how they want to be, sure I get that, it's not rocket science.

So what exactly are you trying to present here? Because last time I checked this was a place for open discussion where decisions will be questioned.

Posted:A year ago

#13

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