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Bossa head predicts early death for PlayStation Vita

Thu 15 Dec 2011 9:13am GMT / 4:13am EST / 1:13am PST
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Henrique Olifiers, founder of the social developer Bossa Studios, believes that the Vita will suffer a "horrible premature death."

In an interview with Videogamer, Olifiers stated Bossa had little interest in forthcoming hardware unless it allows users on different platforms to play together.

"I hate the fact you cannot play a game on the PS3 against the same game on the 360 or PC," he said. "Walled gardens in a world where people are freely connected all the time is just a dumb idea that limits what is achievable."

Olifiers referenced Valve's Gabe Newell, who spoke out against the "ominous" rise of closed platforms at this year's WTIA TechNW conference in Seattle.

"Valve is bang on: proprietary stuff is madness, we should be moving to more open platforms, to interoperability, bringing everyone together."

"If this is not the motto for the big console manufacturers, not only will we not be there, they're likely to die a horrible premature death, the kind of which I think the Vita will suffer from."

Bossa Studios was acquired by Shine, a TV production company, in September this year. Last week, Sony Computer Entertainment veteran Yoshifusa Hayama joined the company as creative director.

18 Comments

Daniel Leaver
Creative Director

23 4 0.2
Trouble is, Mr Olifiers, that the Vita will offer gamers something that "social" games can't; exhilarating gameplay experiences. Being able to connect seamlessly to 100s of other systems regardless of hardware sounds great, but when the game you're connecting with isn't fun, why bother?

Posted:2 years ago

#1

Andrew Goodchild
Studying development

1,251 407 0.3
@Daniel, bang on the mark. I don't know if Vita will succeed, unfortunately I don't have the spare cash for one anytime soon, but I'm rooting for it. I would love for it to really make waves whilst all of the people saying how core games are dead, watch as they watch the social hype bubble deflate (I'm not sure that it will burst, but I'd bet there are going to be a few people losing money on hype inflated share prices at the least).

Posted:2 years ago

#2

Tom Keresztes
Programmer

663 271 0.4
The Vita does not offer anything fundamentally new (in terms of technology), so i would be surprised to see it achieving a fundementally bigger market share than the PSP.

Posted:2 years ago

#3

Simon Berry
Experienced Games Designer

1 0 0.0
I'm gonna chuck away dark souls and play monstermind!

Posted:2 years ago

#4

Elton Tran
Studying Games and Animation Level 3

1 0 0.0
On the basis that being unable to connect to other consoles for the Vita will make it end sooner doesn't that mean the next-gen consoles will also end sooner? Since I doubt companies will share how to connect to their own console. Well...apart from Sony maybe? Or am I being to hopeful?

Posted:2 years ago

#5
In other words "I'm winning, therefore anything that's not me must be losing"

Next.

Posted:2 years ago

#6

David Bachowski
VP Business Development

66 0 0.0
I'm going to be the dissenting voice on these comments and say Henrique has a point. Everything (including core gaming) is moving to open connectivity. Just look at what OnLive is doing with console games being streamed to mobile devices. The trend is being set.

Also, if platforms are becoming more "open" and "connected" that doesn't necessarily mean the gameplay has to be watered down.

Posted:2 years ago

#7

Daryl Sautter
Senior Language Tester

1 0 0.0
Doesn't Portal 2 let PS3 and PC play together? The same thing goes for DC: Universe if I'm not mistaken; and Counterstrike Go will support this as well.

As for the early death of PS Vita... I personally am looking forward to the Vita. Sony and third parties seem to put a lot of effort into the system and its games. If they can keep it up, I'd love to see the Vita staying for quite a while. :)

Posted:2 years ago

#8

James Prendergast
Research Chemist

735 432 0.6
I think he has a point about cross-platform play. At least with the PS3/Valve deal it seems like we might see at least the opportunity for PC and PS3 players to play with/against each other.

Maybe i missed the sentence in the linked article but when does Mr Olifiers say anything about depth of experience or exhilirating gameplay experiences? As far as i saw, he didn't. Besides the point that such things are totally subjective (as anyone who has a relative who has been absorbed by Solitaire or Sudoku for hours can attest) and so you can't really say that gaming on the Vita will be better/more absorbing for someone else than something on a mobile phone/tablet, his point that "if they want more focus on tech specs rather than usability and accessibility" is a valid potential criticism. I mean, i'm sure everyone here loves Nintendo friend codes.

Posted:2 years ago

#9

Andrew Clayton
QA Weapons Tester

150 7 0.0
So was his point that we need to have more cross-console gameplay or that the Vita is going to fail? If it's the latter, I have to disagree. The 15 minutes I got to test the Vita at E3 reminded me how much I loved my old GameBoy, and being able to play a variety of games from the Uncharted game to the awesome music-based puzzle game (I can't remember the name) highlighted the potential variety that the Vita could have.

If he's arguing the former, didn't we already discuss that in the tech review on PC graphics? While Xbox gamers may not have any advantage over PS3 gamers, would Microsoft and Sony ever allow that? I can see cross console between PC and any other console for any cooperative part of a game (i.e. Portal 2), but competitive mode would be far too heavily weighted towards PC gamers.

Posted:2 years ago

#10

Neil Young
Programmer

296 372 1.3
I don't think he's talking about cross platform MP - I think he means open platforms, so that titles worked across multiple physical platforms. It's not without merit, but I can't see any of the big hardware makers wanting to make "gaming dvd players" at present, and I can't see it'll be major factor in whether the vita sinks or swims.

Posted:2 years ago

#11

Manoel Balbino
Programmer

15 3 0.2
Apple's walled garden seems to be doing fine, after several years of utter failure of cross-platform mobile games.

Posted:2 years ago

#12

Kevin Patterson
musician

187 103 0.6
I hope the Vita succeeds and does well. I'm not really a handheld gamer, but the dual stick gameplay the vita offers will go a long way to the possibility of getting one someday. I hate touchscreen controls on phones, I wish that Apple would offer a joypad dock or something.

Posted:2 years ago

#13

Daniel Harty
Audio Capture Specialist

18 0 0.0
I aggree with Olifiers, it is a backwards concept to expect that you should shut out other people who have bought the same game. Technically, its a nuisance, not impossible to have multi platform players meet in the same multiplayer space.

Vita will likely enjoy similar success as the PSP in my opinion. At best, its innovations are cousins of already existing innovations of yesteryear (yes - I meant to say year) and it is set up begging for endless, unimaginitive PS3 ports. When you can already get excellent experiences, designed specifically for mobile gaming at a few euro/pounds just by using your smart phone, the 300 initial fork out for the Vita, then the memory cards, then the software is ..hmm...optimistic.

Posted:2 years ago

#14

Mark Wayland
Senior Programmer (Graphics)

2 0 0.0
If the VITA has a standard TCP/IP stack implementation, then why can't it play against other platforms? If anything, it's an infrastructure or developer/publisher issue not necessarily a hardware based one. Pretty short sighted really, and too early to tell. Why all the negativity?

Posted:2 years ago

#15

David Amirian
Writer

59 3 0.1
thats like asking why you cant cross-game chat with people on xbox live on ps3. or why i cant talk to people on MSN Messenger using Google Talk.

Posted:2 years ago

#16

Alfonso Sexto
Lead Tester

814 644 0.8
I heard the same 5 years ago about the PSP.

Predicting the death of a console before its release is always pure speculation and a mere coincidence if the predictions happen to be true.

If this person was a member of SONY then maybe I could trust it a bit more. But so far, whatever happens we'll see.

Posted:2 years ago

#17

Stephen McCarthy
Studying Games Technology

205 0 0.0
"I hate the fact you cannot play a game on the PS3 against the same game on the 360 or PC,"

i do recall that Dungeon Defenders has cross gaming with the pc ps3 and maybe phone copys.

Posted:2 years ago

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